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Abortion Foes Plan Huntington Demonstration

Group will line strip of Route 110 on Oct.7.

Abortion opponents are planning a large demonstration Oct. 7 that will line Route 110 from Walt Whitman Shops to Jericho Turnpike.

Ann Cook, presiding vice chair of the Long Island Coalitiion for Life and chair of Stand Up for Life, said the Huntington Station demonstration will be one of about 1,700 sponsored by the National Life Chain around the country and in Canada.

Last year's demonstration drew about 600 people, she said. This is the 15th year the group has demonstrated.

"We hope to bring awareness at how many babies are being aborted here in this country," she said. "And we try to change the hearts and minds of people."

Cook said the signs demonstrators will be carrying are those approved by the national organization and that 11 tables will be set up to distribute information.

"We are nonsectarian, nonpartisan groups," she said. "We try to get all faiths and political persuasions."

The demonstration will begin at 2:30 p.m.

Ron September 29, 2012 at 01:44 AM
You need to educate yourself on exactly what George Tiller did before you can condemn Brian. This guy would inject digoxin into the spinal column or heart of an 8 month old fetus for a mere $5,000. Are you really going to say a 6 or 8 month old fetus is not a living being? Has no feelings? Educate yourself on who George Tiller or Ann Neuhaus were aside from friends of Katherine Sebelius.
Jackie M September 29, 2012 at 01:56 AM
Brian is saying that it OK to murder and you think I need to educate myself. Sorry, you know not of what you write.
Jack September 29, 2012 at 02:55 AM
Valerie, you are in total denial. You need to do some research before you launch your ill informed remarks. So you believe those abortions are staged on You Tube? What do you think happens during an abortion? In addition there are almost as many abortions in the 2nd trimester as the first. Not to mention the late term abortion that occurs shortly before the natural birth where the entire BABY except for the head is removed from the womb and killed by piercing the back of the skull and and the brains are vacuumed out which then collapses the soft skull. During this procedure the BABY is rigid in pain during its silent scream until it dies. Wouldn't it be that more humane to carry a baby to term and give it up to another family that will love it and care for it for life. I know it's a huge inconviemence but your conscience will rest that much easier for the rest of your life. Ask most women who have had abortions and how upset most of them are since their abortion.
Jackie M September 29, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Jack, Stop the propaganda. You most certainly can not speak for most women. All of the women I know who have had abortions only regret getting pregnant in the first place. Maybe you all should give out condoms at the anti-abortion rally. Or are you against contraception as well? Or is it sex for enjoyment that really disturbs the lot of you?
Jack September 29, 2012 at 03:47 AM
Jackie, does the truth bother you? If so then we are making progress. Im sure you are correct that most people with an unwanted pregnancy regret getting pregnant but the killing off ones own child weighs on them forever. On your last silly question, who is "the lot of you"? Is that what you do is categorize people who do not agree with you?
Jackie M September 29, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Jack, If you mean your "truth," then yes it bothers me. 1. You can't possibly know what most women feel. That is a fact. 2. You don't decide when life begins. 3. Harassing women as the go in for an abortion is wrong. 4. You didn't answer my question: Will you be giving out condoms to prevent unwanted pregnancies? 5. Or will you just be trying to force them to have children that they don't want?
Allie's Grandpa September 29, 2012 at 03:25 PM
One problem with all of this is that there are two groups of extremists who dominate these discussions. There are those who favor abortion at any time, under any circumstances, at one extreme, and there are those who favor banning abortion, whatever the time and whatever the circumstance. Neither group represents the best interests of America, and the latter group, the so-called "right to life" organizations, are a plague on our society because most of them are opposed to the very thing that would prevent the need for abortions, namely, effective birth control. There are millions of Americans who stand in NEITHER extremist camp; these folks include committed Christians and Jews who believe in limited rights to abortion, with certain early time limits, and certain extreme situation exceptions. I am in this camp. I accept the fact that someone has different religious beliefs than I do, and they hold that "human life" begins at conception; most of us in the middle don't, but we also don't believe that a late pregnancy should be terminated unless it meets certain tests (e.g., substantial risk for the pregnant woman, or a pregnancy which resulted from rape, etc). You can argue what you like, but most of this is like trying to count the number of angels on the head of a pin. But, those hypocrites who refuse to assist women (and men, and teenage girls and boys) in being educated about contraception and getting access to it, are a major cause of abortions.
Jack September 29, 2012 at 04:05 PM
Jackie, you have categorized me and to be kind many inaccurate statements in your first post. You have also made numerous assumptions about me. You don't even know me. Then you ignore what actually happen to a baby when it is aborted. I think you don't know the meaning of the word "truth". You keep asking me if I am handing out condoms. Aren't the cheaply available just about anywhere? Even eight year olds (sorry to say) know about condoms. We have seatbelts in cars but people don't use them. Education is key. I don't see anything wrong with carrying a baby to term and giving it up to a loving family. We have institutions available that will help a pregnant woman with everything she needs to carry that baby and adoption at no cost to her. But more funding to continue and expand these "life" operations would be better than giving billions of tax dollars to Planned Parenthood. I very much understand that it is not easy to carry a baby to term but the mental reward that you have done the right thing. I much prefer an adobted baby in the arms of a loving family than an abortionist trying to assemble a torn apart baby on a stainless steal pan to make sure he retrieved the whole baby from the mothers womb. Jackie, an eight week old baby already has a head, hand and toes (although temporarily webbed). Saving a life is the only answer no matter how challenging the circumstances.
Janet B. September 29, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Not to dismiss your position, but there are many health risks associated with a pregnancy. I have had many friends develop preeclampsia and gestational diabetes. I had a friend end up in ICU after giving birth, and another friend who had to have multiple transfusions just to stay alive when the placenta began to grow into her organs. Even in this day and age, death is still possible during labor. It is so much more than a 9-month inconvenience. No matter what your opinion on the matter, women still legally have a choice, and I'm so glad we do. But it is neither an easy choice nor one taken lightly in most cases. I agree with Allie's Grandpa on so many points. And I think we all agree an ounce of prevention is key, education, and men taking as much responsibility as women in preventing an unwanted pregnancy.
Brian September 29, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Your guilt is being covered by desperate excuses.
Jackie M September 29, 2012 at 06:52 PM
I have no guilt about my opinion. And, let me tell you that I became pregnant at 18. I went to get help from Birth-rite. All they did was try to talk me into giving my potential baby up for adoption. I asked for help, but unless I would give my baby up, the organization could not help me. All they said was "Don't have an abortion." I had my daughter, but I received no help from the anti-abortion group. So have a lot of experience behind my very accurate words. Furthermore, if I had an abortion, I would feel no guilt. Again, all of my friends who have had abortions feel bad about getting pregnant in the first place, not about aborting pregnancies that they did not want. And, I watched my mother nearly bleed to death from giving herself an abortion before it was legal. She was desperate and alone. No one helped her. They only condemned her act of desperation. No child should have to witness what I did. KEEP ABORTION SAFE AND LEGAL. DON"T TRY TO FORCE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT!! ABORTION SHOULD REMAIN LEGAL AND SAFE. If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one!
Janet B. September 29, 2012 at 07:07 PM
Brian: I'm not sure if your accusation was directed towards me or Jackie. If me, I have no guilt. I've never needed to have an abortion. Maybe because I practiced safe sex. Maybe because my friends and I went to places like Planned Parenthood to become more educated and in control of our bodies. Jackie M also has no guilt. She actually carried her baby, just like you would have wanted. But what Jackie and I both believe is that it's a choice, AND it's legal, regardless of what you believe.
Jack September 29, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Jackie, congratulations on keeping your baby especially through a very challenging time. I hope you at least had the baby's father there with you to help you through it. I don't see why you and Janet should claim that you don't feel guilty as you have not aborted babies. There is countless testimony from people who HAVE aborted their babies and now shoulder the endless guilt. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right or moral no matter what you believe. Slavery used to be legal too at one time. There are places today that will help you bring your baby to term. Also the pregnancy risks are a fraction of 1%. One of our jobs as human beings is to defend the weakest among us. I can't think of anything or anyone more defenseless than the unborn baby. Look at those abortion videos. The faces of those broken babies will make you cry.
Jannie September 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM
It's funny how men comment so strongly on abortion! If men would step up and take responsibility for unplanned pregnancy, then maybe so many women wouldn't have to make such a drastic decision!
Allie's Grandpa September 29, 2012 at 11:52 PM
I don't care about the fact that Jack is a man, and commenting on abortion. I do, however, care about the fact that he is trying to impose his religious beliefs on the rest of us; he is no better than the Taliban or the Muslim extremists who seek to do the same thing. Jack, I don't criticize you for not wanting an abortion for your wife or your daughter, because your religion tells you that it is wrong, hence your own focus upon "guilt." Of course, their rights must come before your rights on matters like these. I do, however, criticize you for trying to deny to other Americans their right to act in accordance with their own religious beliefs, or in the case of those without religious beliefs, their own sense of ethics. Guilt is related to a violation of one's beliefs; millions of other Americans, Jack, have religious beliefs that are different than your own. Those women do not feel your "guilt." They may feel regret at having to make a lousy decision, or they may feel confusion over conflicting needs, or they may feel that they are doing the right thing under the circumstances pertaining to THEM. And as for your considering a fetus - what you like to call an "unborn baby" - as "the weakest among us", Jack, I consider the weakest among us those hundreds of millions of children, or existing humans, brought into this world by parents who either won't, or can't, take proper care of them. Those are the ones who need serious protection, Jack.
Janet B. September 30, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Very well said, Allie's Grandpa. Couldn't agree more.
Jackie M September 30, 2012 at 12:33 PM
I must comment on the bold red sign that reads "Stop Abortion Now" as it reeks of propaganda. Will the Patch post a "KEEP ABORTION SAFE AND LEGAL SIGN"?
Ron September 30, 2012 at 12:47 PM
You are too funny.Then organize your own protest for something that is already law. I am sure The Patch would give you equal press time.
Pam Robinson (Editor) September 30, 2012 at 01:01 PM
Hi, Jackie, if a pro-choice group organizes a demonstration, we'd be happy to run just that kind of picture.
Jackie M September 30, 2012 at 01:06 PM
GOOD Pam! And Ron, one can stage a counter protest to keep abortion safe and legal. It looks as though one might be needed.
Valerie October 01, 2012 at 01:04 PM
Jack: You are the least informed here, sweetie. You base your "knowledge" on YouTube videos, where you don't even know the circumstances of the procedure, whether the fetus was dead already, or if the mother was dying and it was an emergency, etc. You really are woefully naive and gullible, sorry. The "late term" abortions you refer to are *only* legally performed where the life/health of the mother is threatened, or the fetus is dying. These are WANTED PREGNANCIES that have gone horribly wrong. They can and DO save the baby if they can.They are a mere 1% of all abortions, so please stop with the misinformation and histrionics. I take it you would rather the mother AND fetus die? Get a clue, sweetie. You want to force women and girls to DIE. YOU want to make that choice for them. YOU need to mind your own uterus. Oh, wait, you don't have one. So YOU need to MYOB! Re: adopting out...you are aware that, on average, there are roughly 100,000 babies and children wasting away in the adoption/foster care system, right? What's wrong with them? Why is no one adopting them? Aren't they "prefect" enough? Yet you want to force women and girls to unload their babies into an already dysfunctional system? The *choice*, regardless of what it is, MUST be up to the woman or girl. Let's educate our girls (abstinence is best!) and make sure they *get* the full ramifications of what can happen if they still get pregnant. THEY are the ones who must live with the consequences. Not YOU.
Valerie October 01, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Allie's Grandpa: Very well said. I completely agree with your posts. Thank you.
Jackie M October 01, 2012 at 01:42 PM
KEEP ABORTION SAFE AND LEGAL! IF YOU DON"T BELIEVE IN ABORTION, then don't have one. MY mother nearly died from giving herself an abortion when abortion was illegal. She was desperate. I had to witness it. And Janet B is correct. What about the children languishing in foster care right now? There are so many unwanted children, and no one to care for them. It is so sad.
Valerie October 01, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Janet B: Well said.
Jack October 03, 2012 at 01:37 PM
Nice try Grandpa, between you and me the only person who is making this a religious issue is you. I never mentioned religion and many pro-life people I have met are not religious and/or affiliated with any religious institution. I am speaking as an obvious moral issue ONLY. These babys do feel pain and have been observed to recoil away from a foreign object that is inserted into the womb toward them. Can you imagine the pain you would feel if your arms and legs were torn off your body and what it must feel like to then bleed to death? Your 2nd "nice try" is bringing up young children that are not properly cared for. While this is a critical issue, it has nothing to do with abortion unless your thoughts are that abortions solve that problem. I hope that is not what you mean. Many children as you may know that have grown up in the most difficult childhoods still go on to become successful adults.
Valerie October 03, 2012 at 02:35 PM
Jack: You need to stop spreading misinformation regarding fetal pain. it would help if you actually got your information than something other than YouTube or "pro-life" websites. The structures necessary for pain transmission to the brain are not developed enough to transmit these signals until at least the 20th week of gestation, or so. Since virtually 99% of abortions occur *before* the 20th week (90% are before the 12th week), pain is a non-issue for the majority of abortions. For the remaining 1%, these are *wanted* pregnancies that are in *crisis*, whereby either the mother or fetus is dying, or both. They do try to be as humane as possible, but time is not always on their side. Please get your facts straight. Thank you.
Jack October 07, 2012 at 06:29 PM
Valerie Your misinformation is a moving target. Looke at your stats again and you should realize they do not make sense. Pain can be felt by the unborn baby in the late stages of the first trimester and throughout the balance of the pregnancy. The are about as many abortion in the 2nd term as the first term and we are not even speaking about the horror of the laterm abortion where the baby is rigid in pain during this killing. That is where the term "silent scream" came from. You have stated you have no guilt about this atrocity. Very sad to say the least.
Valerie October 09, 2012 at 01:01 PM
I'm sorry, JACK, but it is YOU who are misinformed. The ability to process pain signals is NOT POSSIBLE before roughly to 20th week. I suggest you obtain your information from MEDICAL sites, not second-hand from pro-life sites or especially YouTube videos. The Silent Scream was DEBUNKED as a FAKE decades ago, sweetie. You really need to keep up with the times and come out of your cave. I clearly have higher standards for what is deemed scientifically acceptable. My information is current, top-notch, and peer-reviewed by the medical community. Furthermore, I see you completely ignored my FACT that post-viability (past 21 weeks or so) abortions are ONLY performed on WANTED PREGNANCIES when the fetus or mother is dying. The old videos you drool over are OLD. They no longer perform those procedures EXCEPT when the mother/fetus is dying. They try to SAVE the pregnancy and are left with no choice. So, it seems you want the woman to die. Speaks volumes about you, really. You really need to educate yourself. Furthermore, since you are supposedly a "man", one needs to wonder what the heck you are doing harassing strange women about their pregnancies. That's disgusting. Mind your own business. I never stated anything about having "no guilt". I'm starting to think you are an elderly man with too much time on his hands. Use it to EDUCATE yourself, dear.
Jackie M October 09, 2012 at 02:23 PM
KUDOS VALERIE!!! Jack is way too preoccupied with women's bodies. His "science" is propaganda not fact. Most abortions are performed in the first trimester with many women opting for a post coitus pill. No little girl or boy should have to witness his or her desperate mother nearly bleed to death from a self inflicted abortion. My mother performed this procedure on herself, and I had to watch as the blood pooled around her feet. She had no support and this was when abortion was ILLEGAL. She struggled to feed the children she had. She knew another would doom her and us to a lifetime of poverty. And PEOPLE LIKE JACK would be no where to be found. Jack, have you ever offered to support a pregnant woman and her child not related to you? Not that that would give you a right to tell her what to do, but I am curious. Are you just shooting your big, uneducated, mouth off???
Jackie M October 09, 2012 at 02:38 PM
KEEP ABORTION SAFE AND LEGAL!!! KEEP ABORTION SAFE AND LEGAL!!!

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