Man Shot in Huntington Station

3 men sought in attack on pair on Lowndes Avenue.

A Huntington Station man was shot Saturday night on Lowndes Avenue.

Suffolk County police said Rahmel Caleb and a friend were walking near Church Street about 9 p.m. when three men got out of a car and two of them fired eight shots at the pair. Caleb was wounded in both legs.

He was taken to where he was admitted for treatment of non-life-threatening injuries.

Police said the assailants were driving a gold four-door sedan and fled west on Tower Street.

Caleb's friend was uninjured.

The investigation is continuing. Detectives are asking anyone who may have witnessed this incident to contact the Second Squad at 631-854-8252 or anonymously to Crime Stoppers at 1-800-220-TIPS. All calls will remain confidential.

Joseph October 09, 2011 at 02:17 PM
This is awful. We really need a leader in office who will take charge and who has a plan to address the violence. We can't afford to elect a Legislator who will avoid parts of our community that struggle. We need a legislator who will stand up and bring resources from the County that we need from Huntington and that's why I will be voting for Spencer.
david k October 09, 2011 at 06:10 PM
As a result of the ongoing violence and shootings in the immediate vicinity of the Jack Abrams Intermediate School, Elizabeth Black, thankfully, along with a majority of School Board Members, voted to keep ALL the children in the HUFSD safe, by creating an alternate location for the students who were in danger of becoming victims to the crime and violence this area has been plagued with for too many years. This article sites Lownes avenue and Church Street as the location for the most recent crime. These are the very streets the Jack Abrams school is located at. Crime and violence at this location means the following: Shootings. Stabbings. Death. Gangs known as the Latin Kings. Gangs best known for conspiracy to murder. Drugs. If Safety and Learning are critical to you, Elizabeth Black is the only choice for Suffolk County Legislator. Elizabeth Black has proven over and over again, she understands the needs of our diverse community. She cares. She gets results. She can affect positive change. School Board Members are entrusted by the New York State Board of Regents to uphold their responsibility and obligation to ensure a safe education for ALL children in the HUFSD. Vote for Elizabeth Black. Her track record is unrivaled when it comes to her ability to enhance the qualitiy of life all residents of Huntington deserve.
Joseph October 09, 2011 at 07:58 PM
I have to disagree with the commenter above. From where I stand, that was a decision that only made the situation worse. When you shut down a positive influence in a neighborhood, you make the situation worse. When you do it due to nighttime crime, its not really relevant. It is terrible-that there is crime-but that should be addressed regardless and without taking away a school from its children. What about the many children who live in that neighborhood anyway? What did Liz Black do for them after she shut down their school? Nothing that I know of. So does she really want to do well by all kids? She may be a great person, I understand she is a teacher or a retired teacher, but she certainly brought shame to her school district and shouldn't be in a position to do so at the County.
tony October 10, 2011 at 04:13 AM
I agree with Joseph and go furhther and say that if the Jack Abrams school was located in Huntington Bay, the town, county and school board would have called in the state police, NY National Guard, U.S. Marines and whatever other resources would be required to end the violence, make the neighborhood safe and secure and keep that school open.
William Murray October 10, 2011 at 01:56 PM
The Huntingtonian has a map that shows the close proximity of the shooting to the school: http://thehuntingtonian.com/2011/10/09/another-shooting-in-huntington-station/ Can you name one other school in Huntington that has seen multiple shooting incidents over the last few years? .................I didn't think so. Spencers answer to this would be more high density housing. I agree with Tony but you forgot the FBI, CIA and NSA.
Joe Obermaier October 10, 2011 at 02:19 PM
Two things: 1) to report on this shooting and not mention its proximity to the school that was closed down just fifteen months ago due to violence in the area (whether real or perceived) is poor journalism. Being a fair journalist doesn't mean leaving out facts that will enflame one group or another. Democracy depends on citizens having reliable, accurate facts put in a meaningful context. (You don't save any time anyway, since it will inevitably be brought up in the commentary.) 2) to attempt to use this shooting to promote anyone's political campaign is in poor taste. Someone in this town was shot on our streets. Again. Eight shots fired at 9 PM on a Saturday night. This has got to stop. Don't try to convince me that this is the reason to vote for your candidate over the other. Convince me, if you can, that your candidate will give a damn come Nov. 9th.
Joseph October 10, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Actually, my understanding is that there have been violent crimes in closer proximity to the Jefferson school and Stimson school at times. I also understand that it is very bizarre not to recognize that the high school as being in close proximity. Why do people think that closing a school is an answer to crime? I haven't heard of a school across our country (and I've done research) that has responded to crime by closing its doors to children. Effort should be made to bring police resources to the area. As I have read in Spencer's materials (and learned recently) Huntington invests more $ in the Police than it gets back in services. He will fight for our fair share. He is also backed by Suffolk County Superior Officers Association and Suffolk County Police Benevolent Association. This is a candidate I think we can all count on.
Jen LaVertu October 10, 2011 at 03:04 PM
"He is also backed by Suffolk County Superior Officers Association and Suffolk County Police Benevolent Association. " I don't find this very reassuring. The crime didn't just pop up this month. It's been around for awhile now. What have they done to make it better? So them endorsing Spencer does not necessarily mean it's a good thing. In my eyes it is the exact opposite.
William Murray October 10, 2011 at 04:13 PM
@ Joseph - Shootings have not happened across the street from a school on a regular basis anywhere else in the Town of Huntington period. This has been going on since the 1960's. It is nothing new. It just keeps getting swept under the rug. The next thing we will hear about is a new committee that will be set up. This area has become too lucrative for various influential land owners. The Town has refused for many years to just enforce the rules that are already on the books because these land owners may get upset. The land owners are literally making millions of dollars off the backs of Huntington Taxpayers. HUFSD is bearing the brunt of this problem financially and perceptually. Maybe this is why the Huntington Housing Authority has never instituted the program that lets Section 8 money be used to make mortgage payments. The landowners would be out a lot of money then
John October 10, 2011 at 05:15 PM
Has there ever been a shooting in the middle of the day ? I work in the area and feel completely safe during the day. Open the school back up.
Kara October 10, 2011 at 06:42 PM
Actually, I am moved by the endorsements for Spencer. The police themselves are dedicated officers---the issue is that you need County resources. Under Levy, we saw hate crimes get so out of control that the Justice Dept. now is overseeing the County. We saw a County Executive who didn't listen to the people who asked him to hire the funded officers. From what I'm reading, Spencer is backed by a number of Suffolk County Police Unions. He certainly has my vote.
Joseph October 10, 2011 at 06:47 PM
I disagree with the comment regarding the shootings relation to political positions. I personally know people who were there whent he shooting occurred. These are real problems in Huntington and very relevant. I would like to know what both candidates plan to do to address crime. I don't think it's opportunistic by any stretch of the mile to address this in the debates or in the literature or in any way. Personally, I want to hear from all of the candidates running (County and Town) about what they see as their role in doing something to make parts of Huntington safer. Huntington Station isn't the only area dealing with crime either. There are some serious issues in Greenlawn and in other parts of the Town. I'd like to hear from all the candidates--Republicans, Democrats, Independent Party, WFP, etc. on exactly how they see their role in handling issues like the crime that occurred over the weekend.
William Murray October 10, 2011 at 07:19 PM
That area is loaded with cameras. Too bad they are not good enough to read license plates, heck they are just barely good enough to make out the type of car. Cameras with IR night vision that can read a license plate from 100's of feet away are very very expensive. That would have been real protection and not perceived protection.
Jen LaVertu October 10, 2011 at 07:31 PM
Looks like Spencer is too busy with mailings that say "suck and lick" instead of saying what the people want to know about. The issues. I just read the newest Patch article and the cupcake flyer was one thing but to keep putting out negative literature instead of positive "what I will do if elected literature" is really immature and a nasty way to get elected. Does not show integrity in the least. We don't need leaders that allow this type of demonizing of anyones character. As far as hearing from ALL the candidates? We only have 2 apparently. The Democrats VS the Republicans and I think Gene Cook is the only running independent (Town Board). It's sad to see us now in a 2 party system. I can go into the grocery store and choose from 30 types of shampoos but come election time? It's this one or that one.
Andrea October 11, 2011 at 12:38 PM
The cameras are a joke and everyone knows it. Same for the train station and everywhere else I know of. Anyway - I doubt the people involved care about whether there are cameras around - and since they knew each other anyway and no one is talking well... i doubt much could have provided "real protection".
Joseph October 11, 2011 at 01:29 PM
I don't believe that people aren't running on other lines for any other reason that they choose not to be. Anyone can be a candidate. I guess people aren't as motivated to run for office these days when civility and decorum have disappeared. The internet shouldn't be used for online bullying but it seems to happen a lot-and not only in this area, but everywhere and in all kinds of elections. As for the literature, I've read a number of positive literature pieces from Spencer. Most of what I've gotten in the mail is positive. I think this is the second one that has focused on his opponent. He has a functional website with information too that tells us all about him.
Jen LaVertu October 11, 2011 at 01:53 PM
Thats not true. Kevin Thornburne was running on the Working Family Party line and all his signatures were challenged by the Democrats. He was then tossed off and no other candidate was put forth. Peter Nichols was running on the Libertarian line and they decided to drop a candidate all together with no further explanation. Shocking because Peter has always been very outspoken. It happened right after they endorsed Vivienne Wong to run with Peter Nichols as a Libertarian, after the Republicans challenged all her signatures to run as a Republican. http://huntington.patch.com/articles/libertarians-no-town-candidates-in-2012 The Republicans also challenged Vivienne Wong and that case ended up in court because they selected Gene Cook who is an independant. http://huntington.patch.com/articles/cook-ousted-from-gop-town-board-ballot Do a short search here on the patch and see what happened to all the other people that WANTED to run in this election and were in some way, shape, or form knocked off the ballot one by one till there were only 2. This was my first year watching the entire process and it really opened my eyes. So no, people that WANT to run cannot run unless the people in charge of the political parties WANT THEM to also run. The elections are run by 2 political parties.
Joseph October 11, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Ms. Lavertu, I understand what you are saying. It is just election law procedure that you are talking about. I have lived in a number of counties and have always followed elections of interest. Parties always challenge signatures which is why people have to always get more than required. If signatures are invalid then a person can't run. Part of running for office is knowing what you have to do to get there. I suppose you are right in that there are people who might run but find the process confusing. I'm not sure how that can be addressed other than maybe making friends with someone you can trust who knows the process or doing research before a person decides to run. I see the information you are providing and I understand your frustration in wanting more people to choose from but this is very standard and nothing at all specific about Huntington. I think this kind of thing happens in almost every election and I'm sure that challenging signatures is routine because I have seen it often. If the signatures are valid then there is no issue for the candidate.
Sue October 13, 2011 at 03:37 PM
I have to disagree Joseph. A candidate can make up any empty campaign promises in literature. Spencer can write all he wants, I expect more proof than words. Like it or not, controversial as it was Liz black took a stand and took the responsibility she had for keeping ALL children safe regarding their educational experience. It would have been so much easier to turn a blind eye & HOPED the town supervisor would step up & fight to protect ALL students attending jack Abrams. She has in fact made it possible for the students to learn without needing 6 police cars stationed outside the front door & surrounding the playground during recess & gym. There has not been 1 lockdown affecting our children. By the way, yes there have been shootings during the school day @ jack Abrams. Lay off Liz, she did her sworn job to protect our students. It's Frank Petrone & his buddies who haven't done theirs!
Andrea October 13, 2011 at 03:46 PM
Yes, and for all the students that live in that area it also reinforced the concept that their area isn't good enough for a school. Years ago, when I was a kid at Southdown, I remember when they started bussing kids all around the school district so it would be fair. I lived around the corner from Southdown and I stayed there - but some new kids at Southdown lived across from Huntington El (or Jack Abrams, or the school formerly known as Jack Abrams) and though I was a kid and it didn't matter to me, I remember wondering why they had such a long bus ride when there was a school right there. And I remember hearing later about parents of kids by me who were upset about their kids being bussed to the station for school... I wonder, going back a few decades - if that had never happened and kids stayed going to the school closest... would anyone have shut down Jack Abrams? I bet not. Who would have argued that you couldn't go to school in your own neighborhood? So yeah, I don't think this decision represents ALL.
Kara October 13, 2011 at 07:03 PM
To Sue: I agree that candidates can make up campaign promises but how do we judge those that are authentic and those that are not? Dr. Spencer has a long history of being a man of integrity. Why assume it's lies? I believe that school didn't actually need the police presence, but concerned parents did. I understand that you support Liz Black's vote, I personally believe it hurt learning more than anything. Many parents seem to be saying the scores are very low in Woodhull from last year. Their kids did poorly on tests. So the decision, if it was to protect kids, seemed to have a negative impact. To your other assertion I think you are right, blame can go around. But wouldn't it be great if people started to focus on what could be done together instead of attacking each other? Let's hope people move in that direction soon.


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