Many college graduates are finding themselves in a decidedly retro phenomenon, where economic independence starts from the security of their parents' homes.
"What seems to be changing is not that kids are returning home for a while after college, but how long they are living at home before they can leave," said Lawrence Levy, executive dean of the National Center for Suburban Studies at Long Island's Hofstra University. That could have widespread implications for local communities.
Changing economic dynamics and cultural shifts are among the reasons experts cite for the re-emergence of nuclear, multi-generational family homes not unlike family units of post-WWII America.
More Kids at Home, Less Stigma
A study by the Pew Research Center of U.S. Census data determined that 39 percent of adults (ages 18-34) live with a parent or moved back home at some point during recent years. Among those who have just graduated high school or college (ages 18-24) 53 percent lived at home or moved back temporarily.
Those figures represent the highest percent of Americans living in multi-generational homes since the 1950's, the Pew study said.
In many affluent suburbs, insecurity about economic prospects often predeominate: An extensive survey by the Stony Brook University Center for Survey Research from the fall of 2011 was a snapshot of life in post-recession suburbia: nearly 70 percent of the Long Island households surveyed with family incomes between $35,000-$100,000 annually reported some difficulty in meeting their monthly mortgage or rental payments.
An Associated Press report in April that said opportunities for college graduates vary widely. The report indicated that those with degrees in the arts and humanities may have a long wait ahead of them.
Levy's take: "These are not your mother's and father's suburbs."
In the Pew study, nearly half of these so-called "boomerang" children report paying rent to their parents and almost 90 percent have helped with household expenses.
The social stigma of living at home may also be disappearing, many experts report. The Pew study said about 75 percent of returning young people reported the living arrangements were either good (24 percent) or about the same as before they left (48 percent).
Many reported having college friends in the same circumstances and, unlike previous generations, the explosion of social media keeps them in touch with college friends who are far away.
Sharply Divided Generations
Levy is a Baby Boomer, and after college, he traveled a bit and moved back home briefly, but picking a career and moving out went together naturally. He spent 30 years as a journalist, eventually becoming chief political columnist at Newsday.
"It is clear that this (new) generation now faces much bigger debt, car loans and school loans, credit card costs," Levy said. Looking at his friends and neighbors, he sees suburban newcomers who are more comfortable with a multi-generational family arrangement than the previous generations that turned Long Island's farms into bedroom communities of shopping plazas and armies of commuters to Manhattan.
He might as well be talking about Laura Conte. "I'm still at home because I enjoy it," said the 24 year old a public relations specialist. "I do not make enough money to live on my own and save the way that I want to. My monthly bills are fairly low and I think it is more beneficial to save my money at this point."
Even the secure are staying home. For the last year, financial advisor 29, is a practical, accomplished professional who understands the importance of saving for the future. Since graduating SUNY Binghamton, Trugman, who teaches others how to be responsible with money, first lived at home or with his dad and later shared a place with a brother. Now he has had his own place, an apartment in Plainview, a Long Island suburb about 30 miles east of Manhattan. But that is a recent development.
"It's financially challenging to enjoy a certain lifestyle while building a practice, and finding the time to pursue professional designations," he said.
In many ways Trugman is the norm among educated suburbanites who didn't want to leave their home communities and were willing to re-adjust to living with relatives. His approach can be strikingly pragmatic to people who think of the their 20s as a time to head out adventurously into the world and start a career.
For Conte, a 1950s-style scenario sounds just fine: "I would like to stay at home until I get married or save enough money to put a down payment on a house," the LIU Post graduate said. "Whichever happens first."
Sixty Minutes last night (January 13, 2013) had a piece on the explosion of robotics. This phenomenon does not bode well for future employment opportunities (job creation and growth), especially in the U.S. Among the jobs that will eventually be taken over by robots is robotics engineering. I use the phrase, "taken over" loosely. Robots are not self-aware and do not presently possess the ability to do anything which humans have not programmed and instructed them to do.
Note to Pete King, Carolyn McCarthy, Charles Fuschillo, Dave McDonough, and Andrew Coumo: Come on, folks, help me retire and let some young person take over my job! PS - I am not alone in this predicament!
Think of it as a progression, recent grads start up the career ladder at the entry level and work their way up through on the job training and experience to advance themselves. This process requires vacancies to occur before advancement can happen, including entry, you know, at the entry level. @ George Mulligan re: "I would think your social security and pension should cover your retirement." Me too. However, we recently opened our property tax bill, and right after that we got a $700 oil delivery. Yes, I could retire and then blow my savings very quickly living here.
Actually being single is a huge advantage. Shall we talk about raising a family on tradesman pay? Life is what you make of it. Where ever you may be. Who wants that lifestyle? Fact is 9 out of 10 can stay here mostly because of family help. Whether living home and saving or assisting financially. It has everything to do with the influx of huge money and the amount they are willing to spend. Not poor family values , fear of failure etc...... I have three 20 somethings. One home , one rents a studio and one is a junior in a very good school studying abroad. Needless to say i don't have to wonder or guess. I live it everyday. You could make the same 15-20 hr 20 years ago. Thanks to illegal laborers living far below healthy standards and landlords willing to help that cause there has been no increase in labor rates for many years. Accountability is so easy to attach to others.
Phew....
Hey, I face facts - my kids will be better off going to a trade school - they have ideas of what they want to be when they grow up - but that fluctuates between a few choices - can I afford to have them change their mind after three years of college? Can I expect them to absorb exorbitant school loans - so they can pay them off until they are 30 - living under my roof? I don't have the answers, I know what I want for my children - and if it is going against the tide - so be it. I also have my dollar and my dream.....
IN NYC many companies will pay only for commuting but no salary for interns - If your child has an interest in something just have them inquire and offer their serivces visa vi an an unpaid internship with a letter introducing themselves and why they would like to intern at the respective company..... it looks great on a resume for both college and in the emplyment sector later on . Working in "Pathmark" for gas money is not something that will pave the way for future employment unless they want a job in "big box stores" or in a retail environment. and yes in all cases it will be "grunt work" but it is well worth it later on down the line as well it gives them a better perspective and respect on what ":working" entails.
But what about on the level of morality of those who proffer unpaid internships to young people? Years ago, my frame of reference on this spans 3 decades, no respectable university would allow its students or MBA candidates to accept any internship for which they were not properly compensated. How do we let this kind of thing happen to us as a society? Where is our backbone, our sense of morality? As a parent, I could never acquiesce in one of my children enslaving himself or herself to an "employer" in exchange for ""experience"" as an intern. Slavery is slavery. So is indentured servitude or any other form of bondage...slavery. We have relevant sets of laws in this country and state. One of them is Work Authorization, requiring all employees to submit a Form I-9 along with proper identification attesting to their authorization to work. I have found that some employers are using unpaid internships as a way around this requirement, and that some of their interns are "illegal". The others are wage and hour laws, the Fair Labor Standards Act. Some employers don't consider unpaid interns as employees and thus think they are not covered by those laws. I think that is fallacious.
And Helen: I'm glad you still have your dollar and your dream although right now you may not have as many of those dollars.
IN most cases This is not 9 to 5 its a few hours a day a few days a week and affords students valuable hands on expereinces in different environments. Some do pay minmum wage, some off set by "paying" for communting" with small stipends. Some college internships are credit related- There are MORe benefits then disadvantages. MOSt interships are arranged thru colleges. Some companies interview hundreds of candidates before doling out one or two postions. To "intern" at a company is a highly sought after step in getting permantly employed after college in many industries. College students today would be better equiped to face this bleak job market and have a better chance of being gainfuly employed if they were simply to forego their summer & break recreational "fun" and take advantage of the "interships" available. They are highly competitve. The Savvey students know it is a step in the right direction especialy in this employment climate where you need to seek every advantage to get a job.
I'm disappointed by the absurd over-generalizations in this thread that all "20 somethings" are spoiled and lazy - it's frankly not true, and quite insulting. The job market is tough, and the housing market is tougher - something's gotta give, or don't be surprised in a decade when these 20 somethings are now 30 somethings, and choose to buy property elsewhere. Personally, I am very concerned about the future of Long Island.
A good dose of that disheartened feeling comes directly from the fact that we have this so-called "TWO-PERCENT TAX CAP" in place which is pretty much a load of legislative bull crap, if you'll pardon the expression.
As for my dollars - they're less in quantity and value than they used to be, but if that one darn dollar is that one lucky one, well, then, yea me! Gotta make that lemonade - why else would I get up every (damn) day.....?
Portland isnt on any corp relo relo or expansion recently that i am aware of i could be wrong but not on the top ten places that are either tax friendly or corp friendly. Nice place to visit though.. but LI having greener grass? dont quite agree with that. but thats my opinion. btw welcome back! misery always like company! truly hope being back works out for you and your family.
The kid said he would work for next to nothing, not for nothing. Obviously a presitigious bank, I presume they would pay the guy a fair salary or minimum wage for his efforts. Banks are too heavily audited to risk wage & hour violations. There is not much wrong with interns schlepping and making coffee, especially if they offer to do it as a quid pro quo for getting hired.
Intern or study, or do research. During my sophomore and junior summers I worked in a cancer research program under Dr. Julia Lampkin-Hibbard at the Waldemar Medical Research Foundation, funded by grants from the National Science Foundation in cooperation with NYU Medical Center, and the NY Academy of Medicine. My freshman summer I played tennis competitively. My senior summer was in basic training, which started the day after graduation. I was on a plane to Denver that night.